Paranormal 956
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Paranormal 956
Selena Quintanilla: 30 Years After Her Murder
Hey Right, Spanish music sometimes right.
Speaker 1:What is that supposed to?
Speaker 2:mean Spanish language music. Okay, what do you think about when I say Selena?
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you got several Selenas out here.
Speaker 2:Oh, tell me.
Speaker 1:You gotta be specific. I mean, first one that comes up to mind is Selena Quintanilla Mm-hmm. Then you got Selena Gomez. You got what other Selena you got? I think those are the main ones. I don't think I don't got anything else in mind right now.
Speaker 2:Okay, Wait what happened?
Speaker 1:So we're coming up on the 30th. Wait, you got Selena Gomez in the house. Surprise everybody.
Speaker 2:No, no, just kidding. So it's been almost 30 years since Selena Quintanilla was murdered.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so Wait.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, that's true.
Speaker 2:So fun fact, she was from Corpus Right and I lived in Kingsville, very near, so we know some of the same people.
Speaker 1:Selena and I.
Speaker 2:And I kind of have a lot of first-hand information about what was going on at the time that I don't think you were alive when that was alive that's true, that's true fun fact her and I share a birthday what the fuck yeah I know you're like no, it's 100 true no, yeah, it's we share a birthday, so she's an aries. She's an aries. She's an Aries, yes.
Speaker 1:Which explains a lot, I think right.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, yeah, and so for those of you who don't know and I think there's probably quite a few people who might not know, because this was a long time ago yeah, this was way before I was even born. And then also, not everybody listens to Spanish music, right? I mean here it's more common.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on.
Speaker 2:Here it's more common but not everybody, right Anyway so Selena was a Tejano superstar right and so back in the 90s, when she was big, she still is. Tejano was pretty big. Yeah, that's where it's like yeah, yeah, like it was on the radio with like everything else, yep, when today, I don't know if, like, do you hear into cable, like I mean, it's not the same. Music in general is not the same yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2:Because back then in the 90s, do you know what ska is? It's like rock and roll, but with horns. Okay, that was big in the 90s. And big bands and swing music and country, like everything was big all at the same time and it was all good pretty much.
Speaker 1:It was more of a like like, a.
Speaker 2:They had more platforms to stream it through yeah, I guess, so I mean mtv was like in full swing yeah, that's what I'm saying, like they had more exposure. Yeah, that's where it like started, yeah yeah, yeah, music exploded in the 90s and selena quinta nia was in the front of the tejano side of them. Yeah, right, and so she was pretty she was very.
Speaker 1:She got the looks, she got the outfits.
Speaker 2:She I guess the best way to kind of she would be like as influential yeah, where the fuck is my lap? I just don't. Oh, anyway, you're gonna have mine, I don't know that's fine, but okay, she's reading a book, right, and so anyway, selena was like as big as I think taylor. Swift is now literally I see that yeah, so bianca has a new toy.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:And so she was really big, she was really good, she had kind of a Michael Jackson-like machine behind her right. She had a father who was pushing her.
Speaker 1:Her sister, and she had siblings that were writing the music and her outfits Her mom yeah.
Speaker 2:Her family was involved much like Michael Jackson's family was involved with him and she was a star, much like Michael Jackson was a star when he had so fast forward. She reaches such heights that she comes out with an english album which kind of was unheard of and nobody, that was not on anybody's radar and it it hits like it's good and people like it and she's now goes from being. She started as a coastal bend star. She was big in the Valley and big in Corpus and some in San Antonio. She went from that to like all Latin America right.
Speaker 1:All.
Speaker 2:Spanish speaking Americans, and now, with the English album, now she's worldwide Famous, famous, famous.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right, well, behind the scenes, she had like a fan club. Yeah, yeah, you could write in and you send a little bit of money I think it was $10 way back there and you got a shirt and you got an autograph and you got a little card that said you're in her fan club.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And there's this lady who's running that fan club. And there's this lady who's running that fan club. Now, one of the things that I really think was a key to Selena's success is that she was pretty humble, Like she didn't really think that she was such a big star.
Speaker 1:She made music and she wrote music and she did shows. I guess it was more the fact that she was trying to still live her normal lifestyle throughout her career, right and like she didn't want to care in the world Like I have to be protected in every single aspect of me going out into the public, right.
Speaker 2:And so in Corpus, where she's from, she would be at the mall, she'd go out to restaurants. She just lived her regular life. The bad side of that is, I don't think she thought too many people are writing into the fan club, right? She didn't think anybody's doing it, right?
Speaker 2:so this lady, her name's yolanda saliba fucking bitch she's she's in charge of the fan club, right, and she's pretty much pocketing the money and, like I said, selena's not counting on that money. She doesn't think anybody's doing it. It's just kind of a little thing people do when they're famous, right, and this lady's taking care of it. Well, fans start complaining they sent in their money and they're not getting anything Right. And they complain and the dad hears about it and then he starts to look into things and he starts to figure out holy shit, yolanda's stealing money and it's a lot of money, yeah, right, so the story is that selena went to confront Yolanda at a hotel.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I don't really know why she was at a hotel, but she had money. I will say this. I will say this because I, one of my high school friends, works and records at Selena studio to this day.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And she knows, the whole family knows everything, and so I've gone to that studio and it's not far from where the hotel is okay so I think there's a good chance that she was recording, you know what we need to talk, but let's not do it at the studio.
Speaker 2:Let's go, let's go to this hotel and we're I need to talk to you, just get a room and we're gonna talk. Well, at this time I'm living in Kingsville and I work at McDonald's and I go into work I think I go in at like 3 in the afternoon, I don't really remember. I drank a lot back then. But I show up to work and there is this super weird situation.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:So I walk in. Uh-huh, you see, yolanda with the gun, and so we. I was the one who always closed right and so when we closed, we were all kids, right right, we played the music. Wait, you were a kid in 1995 yeah, well, I mean, I was a super young, I was 20 you see, anyways, I was working, you see.
Speaker 2:Nuh-uh. Anyways, I was working at McDonald's still 20-year-old working at McDonald's and so what we would do is we would, when we closed, we'd blare the music super loud to clean, right, right, and it's just kind of a dumb thing that we did Blah, blah, blah. So we had a big radio.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Did it night blaring the music and I walk in and that radio is blaring in the middle of the news. Oh, and the customers, the whole restaurant are up against the counter listening to the news and nobody that I work with was working. Everything stopped the news and nobody that I work with was working. Everything stopped. We were all listening to the radio because yolanda salivar was in a car, in a truck in the parking lot of the hotel with a gun to her head and they think something happened to selena.
Speaker 2:That's at that point when I walked in and I'm like what happened to selena? Like this is weird, right, yeah. And so this is the stuff. Nobody's gonna get anywhere else.
Speaker 1:What the hell right, so I was in. It's your birthday right so this is oh, no, no, no, no, no, it was before your birthday before my birthday?
Speaker 2:yeah, I was. I was only 19, so that does make a big difference two weeks, yeah, I wasn't even an adult here. All right, so anyway, okay, so I was before your birthday, so one of the things is nobody knew what was happening, and this is before the internet was like it is today, right yeah, it's not broadsville news, right like so today there were a lot of times where we know about things happening as they're happening and we watch them right? People watch 9-11 on the news right right live, etc, etc.
Speaker 2:This was not the same. This is is not how it was. The world was different back then. So on the radio they have to fill time to talk because everybody is listening to what's going on.
Speaker 1:They're just waiting on the first update to change it up.
Speaker 2:So there's all these speculations start coming up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:First one, emilio Navarro. Do you know who emilio nevada was? So he was another big tejano star at the same time but, it was kind of like she was the girl, he was the guy, oh okay. So it was like I don't know if you even know who garth brooks is, but let me think I don't know. Okay, taylor Swift and what's the name of that kid Boy. Anyway, it was like that she was a big, famous girl.
Speaker 1:Like Barbie and Ken.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's do Barbie and Ken right. So the rumor starts. This is on the radio.
Speaker 1:On the news on the radio. Yes, yes, I understand that, Emilia.
Speaker 2:Nevada's wife caught them in bed and murdered them both. Right. Where the fuck does Yolanda come in in that speculation? Yeah, nobody knows. Well see, we didn't know who it was in the car. We just knew there was a lady in the car with a gun to her head and the Selena was dead. No, no, we didn't even know Selena was dead. She wasn't dead at this time.
Speaker 2:Oh, she made it to the hospital she went to the hospital and they did a bunch of stuff, and so we can get into that in a little bit too. Okay, but the stories were just wild about what was happening and none of them were actually accurate at the time.
Speaker 2:So Selena ends up getting shot. So the story from Yolanda is the only one that was there that knows right. Yeah, she says that selena confronted her and got pretty angry and that she wanted to scare selena and pulled out a gun right and unfortunately, she's the biggest liar probably in the history of the world. So we've heard like seven different versions of this. We do know for a fact.
Speaker 2:Selena was shot in the back, so she was like walking away and selena was shot in the back and then she walked to the lobby, to the lobby where she passed out and they called the ambulance and they took her to the hospital, and so I actually worked in that hospital years later, and so it's spawn sound, spawn sound, which is a big deal over there, right, and it's not far either, right, it's not far from this hotel. And so they tried so hard to save her life that they did things that they probably shouldn't have even tried, like they like opened her chest to, like massage her heart to get. Like they went crazy trying to save her life. Now, I think it was. Selena's mom was a Jehovah's Witness.
Speaker 1:Not the dad.
Speaker 2:I don't. I doubt it's the dad. I've met the dad and I doubt he's a witness Anyway. But so there was another rumor that she died because one of the things Jehovah's Witnesses they don't do blood transfusions yeah.
Speaker 2:And so people speculated that it was because of that. That's why she died, is that she had lost blood, and so the truth is that the doctors tried so much, they didn't even ask if she was a witness. They gave her blood immediately. Oh shit, yeah, they gave her blood immediately and it didn't. Her artery was punctured. So even by giving her blood, it's just pouring out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So they didn't not give her blood, so she ends up dying. Spoiler alert Right. And this lady, yolanda, stays in the car for a long time. I get off of work and she's still. She's still in the car. She's still in the car Like I go home.
Speaker 1:You went to the car, you were like hey, come on, you got to get out.
Speaker 2:So I didn't live that close. You went to the car. You're like hey, come on, you gotta get out. So I didn't live that close.
Speaker 1:Kingsville's like 40 miles away, but people in corpus went like yeah obviously and man yeah, I think there's videos like people, like all around yeah the news and shit.
Speaker 2:Like everybody was there this lady was not safe in any way, shape or form, because I can't even, but she could have shot herself. She could have and she didn't, but she could have. So she ends up going to jail and what I think, at least in my world, from what I heard, the first thing that I heard, that was kind of like what she started to say that she knew stuff about Selena, that Selena killed her because she knew some things Right to say that she knew stuff about selena that selena killed her because she knew some things that right on a certain day and many years she's gonna release.
Speaker 2:It never happened. And then she has stuff in a safety deposit box in mexico somewhere and never happened. Yeah, right, and it's just changed over and over. She said her dad wanted her to kill her. I mean, she's just blaming everyone else but her. Everybody except you shot her in the back. Yeah, Like it's really hard to justify shooting.
Speaker 1:I mean you're not an investigator, but I'm not a cop right, and I'm not going to cop school or anything. I get it okay, but I know Okay.
Speaker 2:I have played enough Video games to know that you shoot somebody in the back, it's not great. And so she's up for parole, yolanda is up for parole, and now she's she said something recently. Again she's shifting the blame. So I think there's a good chance she doesn't get out. But because part of the parole hearing is they want you to show that you know, you're, you've accepted and you've changed and you're better and et cetera, et cetera, and I don't know if she's shown any of that.
Speaker 2:Now, one of the things that, to kind of even push it further, the the in Corpus. At the time they had an auditorium on the ocean, because Corpus is kind of like the island where the main street or one of the main streets is right on the ocean and they have an auditorium there. Now it's called Salina Auditorium, but back then it was called bayfront auditorium and they had selena's funeral in that auditorium. And I mean thousands and thousands and thousands of people showed up and they started to for some reason say that it wasn't really her casket that was there, for some reason say that it wasn't really her casket that was there, that they just had a fake casket for some reason, and for some reason this really pissed dad off and he went and he opened the fucking casket to show everybody that she's here inside what the?
Speaker 2:fuck, and so that was another kind of a messed up story at the time, another kind of weird situation. So my grandfather, my mom's biological father, so my mom's parents, were divorced when she was young. So I grew up with six grandparents but my mom's dad had lived in Corpus forever and he was a huge fan of Selena's from the very, very beginning. So he's in like three of her videos because they show her concerts and he's like in the crowds in like three of them.
Speaker 1:What the hell? Yeah my grandfather.
Speaker 2:Well, he was really old, so that's kind of a little weird. But what do you think of when? Because, like with Angie, well, I was in the live that's to start off. But you know her music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course, but like history-wise I mean, yeah, like I grew up with her songs and then you got like like the cumbia kings, which is like her brothers and stuff. Yeah, so it wasn't like just not one group like you got right, she started a movement.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, the brother is the one who wrote all the music yeah because selena didn't even speak spanish and so he wrote all the music and he actually used to have clubs and things in corpus yeah and so he's. He's been around for a while. And so when angie says my wife talks about selena, in her mind she's thinking of j-lo because of the movie. Oh, she didn't even know about Selena until the movie. What the fuck?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's kind of weird. That's weird. But I mean, yeah, you got the music, you got the. I mean several kids back in the day they were having the Selena Quintanilla parties, Like they had the girls dressed up like that, like her and shit like that, like it's, it's still a thing yeah, and she's.
Speaker 2:she set the bar so high, yeah, that I don't know if anybody's ever really been able to bring Tejano back like that, right, like Tejano's been around.
Speaker 1:It's kind of dying off, but it's like a local thing yeah.
Speaker 2:Like people here listen to it, but do people in Mexico listen to it anymore?
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of, but not.
Speaker 2:Not like her. Yeah, I mean people in Spain were listening to her back then you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:How do you know?
Speaker 2:that Well, because I was in Corpus and she was on TV in Spain. Oh, we heard about all this stuff. She was super famous. She would go to all the countries where they spoke Spanish, and so she's pretty famous. I have a picture of Angie with Selena's dad.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kind of weird. So one of the trips that I've you and I have only done one road trip I've wanted to take you on. I know because you're a fan of selena right and I know people at the studio and there's a museum there when you go in, all those famous dresses that you know her in are all there on mannequins.
Speaker 1:Bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're all there.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, and all her gold albums and platinum albums, like it's her microphones. She had a very trademark lipstick on her because she sang so close. The microphones are there, like it's really cool, I think you would like it, and there's a statue now of her on the ocean.
Speaker 1:I've seen that one. I've seen that one in pictures.
Speaker 2:And her grave is there, obviously, and her studio, but her body's there right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to call the dad and open it up again. Yeah, dig her up and prove it. I just want to make sure.
Speaker 2:That's such a weird. There's so many things in this world right, there's so many things in this world that if I thought I don't say I'm out loud, no right.
Speaker 1:And that's one of the things like if I was, imagine, imagine if you died, yeah, and like we start blaming, like we started questioning your mom, like is he within?
Speaker 2:there yeah she's like that's. You know what so so weird that?
Speaker 1:but that's a very rosy thing to do and my mom would open.
Speaker 2:she would dump me out on the floor and show everybody Dead. That's what she would do.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Dump me out. You want to see him. There he is.
Speaker 1:Have at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do what you're going to do, take your selfies, people.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yeah, that's a crazy. I didn't know that one. Let's see well and that's the thing, and also like of the blood, the blood transfusion thingy. Yeah, that's like the story we started hearing again that it was that. Oh, they were.
Speaker 2:They were um jehovah's witnesses I was gonna say jews, jehovah's Witnesses.
Speaker 1:I was going to say Jews, same same, and they don't take blood transfusions, and that was one of the main things that she just bled out. Yeah, so she did bleed out yeah she did bleed out, but that she needed blood yeah.
Speaker 2:And I heard that all the way back then too, and the reason that I know what I know is that that really upset the dad too and they were saying that, well, because and I I'm gonna be honest with you the dad I've met, the dad I've I've met him quite a few times not my favorite person, right, right, not your cup of tea, not my cup of tea, I think that's the best way to say.
Speaker 1:But I can't imagine what he's gone through, because I mean, I get it, I get that the dad is like a father. Yeah, he's a dad, right, but he's also a manager.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So he didn't want that reputation of people still talking when he's still managing the other kids.
Speaker 2:I guess.
Speaker 1:So the thing that I guess You're not going to talk shit that my daughter is not in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There you go. You're not going to talk shit that I didn't give her. They didn't give her blood. There it is. Yeah, they didn't give her blood.
Speaker 2:There it is. Yeah, the thing that I see with the blood transfusion especially is they did so much more Like they cut her chest open and opened her up to try to save her. Like they did so much more and it was. As a parent, I can imagine that being painful in itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like she's already fucking dying and you're doing you know what I mean like yeah her last moments in this planet. Is you mutilating her body for no gain really right, and so I imagine that whole. There's no silver lining with any of this right. I mean, she made the money for all of the family and their families and gave them all jobs, and you know. And then obviously I have never with all the people that I mean not even just jobs, I mean just by the names right, but what I was gonna say is I've known a lot of people who knew her.
Speaker 2:Never has anybody said not one thing slightly bad about her ever, that she was like some kind of angel, right, and then like she had bad people around her or people that were like you know, her dad's like kind of a jerk a little bit right yeah so that is what it is, and I think that happens a lot, right? I mean because I'm surrounded by jerks, right?
Speaker 1:yeah and so but the fact that she had to learn spanish to get her music. That was the craziest part.
Speaker 2:That was I didn't figure out that she didn't know spanish until pretty late, because I just assumed she sings in spanish right and it doesn't she's not like she just basically learned the lyrics in spanish, but she didn't even know what you know like.
Speaker 2:I mean, you've heard me speak spanish, right, she doesn't sing like that, no yeah like you know what I mean. Like when I speak spanish people like yeah, that's not his first line yeah you know she didn't sing like that. She sang like she spoke spanish. So we'll see. I don't know if we're gonna do an update, because I don't think she's getting out yolanda better.
Speaker 1:Hope she stays in, because people are still upset about this I mean not even upset, I mean even just the fact that she thinks it's safe for her to go out. Yeah, she's gonna get shot in the back, yeah it's not gonna be safe for her.
Speaker 2:She's not gonna.
Speaker 1:She's going to get shot in the back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not going to be safe for her, she's not going to be safe out, and I mean I'm not threatening her, I'm not going to do anything, it's kind of obvious. The world hates her Like she's. This is the thing. We've had really bad shit happen in this world. She's still on the top list of most hated people on the planet 30 years later. People still literally hate her like it's crazy. And so she, for her own good, I hope she stays in because she's not gonna be safe out here no she's, I mean, and bitches I mean she's lucky, she's been safe in there also true.
Speaker 2:That's very true that's like yeah, you know the people that are in there with her. Listen to selena on purpose yeah sure yeah, oh, wrong button.
Speaker 2:So even I listened to selena back in the day like it was good music, it was good. And you know I never went to her concerts, I wasn't in her fan club, but it was shocking when she died they didn't steal your $10, she didn't steal my $10, but I mean, and I've met her family and I know her friends, you know like I know people and it definitely was a loss, I think the only, and it's kind of a dark thing to say.
Speaker 2:Right, but since she did die young, she wasn't given the chance to fuck up her legacy like she did good and then it was only good yeah and so I mean, I guess if you gotta look pretty hard to find a silver lining in all this, but it immortalized her forever and people still listen to her and still love her.
Speaker 1:I still hear her. I mean even her songs, like the biddy, biddy, bum bum. Like that's iconic, like you don't even have to be doing it, it's just a random thought that people will say like, and you know the thing is, that's it, like, that's it, you already know who it is, you already know. Like you don't even go to, you don't even have to finish a full sentence of her lyrics yeah like that's how good it was it is.
Speaker 2:And you know the thing that's shocking to me because of the instruments that she used, you would think that it would sound like 80s music. It still sounds good. Yeah, and it's like those instruments are old instruments, they're digital and it still sounds good. How's that? I don't know, because I can't stand 80s music because it sounds like that, but she still sounds good, that's crazy. Talk to y'all later.
Speaker 1:Bye guys.
