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Paranormal 956
Abuse or Advantage The Menendez Dilemma
Could the Menendez brothers’ case hold new revelations that challenge our understanding of justice and privilege? Re-examine the gripping saga that captivated the nation in the early 90s, reignited by a recent Netflix series. We revisit Los Angeles during a time of intense social unrest, where the brutal killing of the Menendez parents emerged amid high-profile tensions like the O.J. Simpson trial and the Rodney King incident. While the brothers claimed years of abuse as their motive, society questioned whether privilege sheltered them from the harshest scrutiny—or even served as a weapon in their defense.
As we peel back the layers of the Menendez brothers' defense, the moral complexities surrounding abuse claims and their lethal outcome surface. In a society that often silenced male abuse victims, Lyle and Eric Menendez might have felt cornered, trapped in a narrative dictated by power and wealth. Do the brothers’ actions reveal a tragic inevitability, or is the justification still too difficult to swallow? We consider what justice might have looked like had the legal system taken a different route with Jose Menendez, a man whose business entanglements initially suggested a mafia hit.
In an unexpected twist, explore a shocking allegation made by a former Menudo member, Roy, who accuses Jose Menendez of heinous acts during the 1980s. The episode doesn't stop there—get ready for a deep dive into friendship dynamics through the lens of real-life Reddit stories, leading to a spirited debate on relationships and boundaries. Join us for a lively debate that even pits host against host, as Bianca and I clash over the Menendez brothers' culpability. From serious allegations to tales of friendship drama, this episode asks you not just to listen, but to engage and share your own thoughts and stories with us.
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Hey my brothers, no, no no, oh no, jokes, jokes, jokes. So it's been going viral, right? Still, after the whole Netflix series and stuff like that, they brought it back up to date, since they're going on trial again, I believe, right.
Speaker 2:They're looking into whether they should get a new trial or adjust their sentencing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2:We are talking about.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I never said it.
Speaker 2:We're talking about the Hernandez brothers. The Hernandez brothers.
Speaker 1:Eric and Lyle.
Speaker 2:So this is an old story Happened in the 90s.
Speaker 1:I think yeah, shit.
Speaker 2:So this was right before I was born, the OJ Simpson trial.
Speaker 1:That also, yeah, 90s, I think. So this was right before I was born, the oj simpson trial.
Speaker 2:That also. Yeah, um kind of to be honest with you at this time.
Speaker 1:California how old were you?
Speaker 2:I was already like 18, 19, 20, no, yeah it was what 92, I think, so I was in college already when all this was going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was, but I mean, I was, I was young, but it was, I was in college.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, and yeah, it's 1992. They went to call, they went to to trial in 93, so all of that I was in college, um, so at this point in time california is kind of like on fire okay they had the rodney king situation.
Speaker 2:Do you, are you aware of that? No, david, okay, so rodney king was a black guy and he gets pulled over. And I think and I'm gonna just skim and maybe I don't have everything perfectly right, right, this episode is not about Rodney King. I think he was on drugs and the cops like just beat him, okay, like mercilessly, and somebody filmed it from, like, their apartment, okay, and somehow that video got out. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Somebody made a TikTok.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is all before all of that, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the video got out and the whole Los Angeles area was like full of riots, on edge, like it was just crazy. And so also at this time I think this has cleared up since then. But Los Angeles particularly was considered like really corrupt as far as police go, so like police did whatever they wanted, right, and so especially black people and poor people and minorities in general, they kind of just had it with this. And so the Menendez brothers kind of represented at the time, the kind of the people that got away with everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So there was. Ok, I see that I see from the social side.
Speaker 1:A lot of people kind of had some resentment I mean it wasn't like because they were in beverly hills, where the fuck right it's right, right, next to los angeles so, but yes, so they were like they were rich kids they were rich kids um, but it's not like you saw murders all the time right, so they were in a very safe yeah, it's not like people were there. Well, they were stealing right when they were younger but right but it wasn't.
Speaker 2:It wasn't killing guys, it wasn't killing well, and also the way that they were stealing stealing the it was like the parents are gonna talk to you. It wasn't like if you and I got caught stealing.
Speaker 1:Right, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2:We would have gone to juvenile detention.
Speaker 1:We would have it would have been more had some consequences. Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:Towards, and so they kind of I guess you could say Worked their way through. Well, what?
Speaker 1:They worked their way through Right right, right, right, right.
Speaker 2:The parents were going to take care of it. The dad wrote a check.
Speaker 1:The kids apologized. Right right All that.
Speaker 2:And so if people are listening and they don't know the story, the Menendez brothers eventually murdered their parents, yeah, and the, I guess, controversy controversy because it comes out in trial that they were abused. And if you watch the netflix series, I will warn anybody who has been abused, especially sexually. They really dwell on it, yeah, and they go into it over and over. They really bang that drum a lot. Yeah, it was as a person who didn't go through all of that. It was hard to watch that. I would have rather watched the horror movie. It was terrible.
Speaker 2:It's very disturbing, very much of the killing, but they showed more of the abuse right, right, they covered the abuse several times a lot, yeah, and really there's only one scene that I remember of the murder of the murder.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you don't even really see much no they just repeat the scene where they were laying down on the sofa, or they were laying down on the sofa, or they were sitting down on the sofa, and the next scene is the mom trying to get up from where she was shot.
Speaker 2:So in the process of murdering their parents, the mother was not dead and they went outside and reloaded and went back in Eric no. What was it?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure. Sure, exactly, I think it was eric, but they went back and killed. No, it was lyle they executed her, yeah it was and so lyle went and reloaded, and then she came back to kill and so a lot of.
Speaker 2:And so immediately after they murdered their parents, they kind of went on a spending spree. They bought a Porsche, one of them bought a Porsche, one of them bought a Jeep. They bought Rolexes, they bought new clothes. They spent quite a bit of money.
Speaker 1:And then they were in a hotel because they were in protective custody.
Speaker 2:So it wasn't clear that they were the murderers at first, and so I think it was their idea that it was a mafia hit on the father, Because the dad, I mean he was doing big businesses Right. So the father was Cuban. So I think there was a little bit of a bias there already.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I think, at the time especially, you could say oh, they're Cubans, they're probably into drugs, right, right. And nothing ever came out about anything even remotely close to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He does. The father does seem to have been a bit of a jerk, I know, on a documentary that I watched in researching this episode, the prosecutor went on record on this documentary and said they could not find somebody to testify that he was a gentle, kind, nice person, right, they couldn't find anybody, and so he was a guy who's an immigrant from Cuba Probably not, probably. He had a hard life, yeah, and so he ran a pretty hard bargain and was very ambitious and demanded a lot of people and it sounds like, at the very least, that crossed the line alone. There is some controversy if the sexual abuse was real or if it was just an excuse to get out. I think you and I are both on the same page is to think that that kind of stuff is pretty common.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it wouldn't be surprising if that was part of the abuse to part of the reason that they did this, and so I think I don't know if we agree on this, but I think we agree that a big part of it was also the money, though, that they wanted access to his money.
Speaker 1:From my side.
Speaker 2:You're not in on that.
Speaker 1:No so.
Speaker 2:I On my side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't really think the raping and that kind of abuse really fits into this particular case as far as the defense, but it does so because the argument, the whole argument that started was because eric told lyle, if I'm saying it correctly, I think yeah, yeah, right, eric told lyle that he was still being abused by his dad at the age of 18. 18. Yeah, that made Lyle fucking lose it and he went up to his dad and confronted him and the dad was like you guys are not going to do shit, like just shut the fuck up. You know so. And the mom knew, knew.
Speaker 2:The mom had to know after so many years, come on, so that's like I don't get it I don't get I, I just so part of this situation that's new right, and understand also that I witnessed this trial from the beginning, as it happened? Yes, right, and so part of the stuff that's come out now is like never heard before oh, it's true right. So, like from my original understanding of the story, there was a good chance that the abuse was just made up as an excuse to try to get them off on the murder Recently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get that. I see, and I mean also like back in the day, abused like people didn't view it as abuse being like a thing to like. That would happen to boys, you know.
Speaker 2:Right, it wasn't something as common.
Speaker 1:Yeah, abuse happens, but it might only happen to girls, not to boys. That's what like people back in the day were thinking. You know, yeah, it was around that time, and it's like it wasn't something that was talked about like today. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Boys or girls, really.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it really was swept under the rug. It was the culture at the time was almost the mentality.
Speaker 1:It was very close Victim blaming, yeah, like Like it was something the victim shouldn't talk about.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like that's how society kind of worked back then, and so people didn't come out and they didn't talk about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just didn't talk about it.
Speaker 2:And you know, so maybe I think what your argument is is. That's part of the reason for the doubt from the public and then also why they didn't talk about it until really they had to. Yeah Right, and I get all of that, and that that may 100 percent be the case where my little brain, the case where my little brain, oh, I don't know that you get a pass to murder people. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like I get and I'm, but they didn't see any other way out, because if they went up to the cops and like, you know what this guy's been. My dad's been abusing me for the past. What was? Was it 10 years?
Speaker 2:It was a long time, I think more than that. More than that Because it didn't start when he was eight. It was like six or something like that, according to them.
Speaker 1:But as a thing, Eric and I wouldn't talk about it To each other Is that what you're saying. Yeah, about the abuse. They never talked about it like with each other until after the fact, like when it was on trial, when they found out the whole thing.
Speaker 2:When the lawyers were kind of going in between yeah, they were like what the fuck? Well, according to Eric and Lyle and I think Lyle's the older one, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, Eric is the small one.
Speaker 2:yeah, and so Lyle was abused by the father first, and then he started to abuse Eric.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then the father switched to Eric, I guess, or I don't know if switch is a word.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Lyle was standing up for himself at some point, like hey, like I don't want to do this or whatever, like yeah just stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the dad stopped with him but continued with eric right, and so I get your argument that people didn't talk about this and that the boys felt that there was no way out. I, my part, that I'm uncomfortable with is this being able to say well, you were raped, so you get to go kill this person.
Speaker 2:No like that no yeah, I get that's the part, and so I get your perspective on it. I don't know. I would have rather let's say it this way I think this is the best way to say it I would have rather the father gone to prison for his abuse than the boys murder their parents. You know what I mean. Like I would have rather that happened.
Speaker 1:Okay, like I completely get that they were Lyle was thinking they were going to get away with murder. Like I totally get that, because they were blaming the mafia, like all this.
Speaker 2:And they went to the movies to make sure they had an alibi.
Speaker 1:Nobody would think that it was them because there was a perfect family, this and this and that. So keep in mind if they were, if, If the parents were alive, Kitty and what's his name? The dad.
Speaker 2:Joe or Jose.
Speaker 1:Jose? I think it's Jose. So if the parents were alive and Eric and Lyle decided to go through the whole reporting of the abuse, through the whole court deal of their dad going to jail, yeah where does that leave kitty at? We all know kitty took his side regardless even after the cheating right, okay even after the whole fucking arguments in the house. Any fucking thing, she would take his side right so here's the thing. Let's just assume they went a fucking trial with the dad, right?
Speaker 1:yeah so I honestly think the dad would have gotten away with it, and that's where you might be right, right because it's 100 like because because he could have hired the best lawyers yes, right, and kitty would have been on his side as his wife yeah he would gotten people to vouch for him, like you know, like talk on his behalf and shit, like come on yeah, come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean I get what you're saying, and especially with the way the lawyers have gotten people out of all kinds of stuff right, including OJ Simpson and everything else in the same area of the country, right?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I get that. I just don't know that that lets you kill both of your parents. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yes, I get it, and so that's my whole thing.
Speaker 2:That's my whole thing.
Speaker 1:There was no fucking way out. That's my whole point.
Speaker 2:I feel like they skipped the line. Let's say it that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I get that.
Speaker 2:They skipped the line. I think they could have. I will say this. I will go as far to say this let's say that they went to trial and he pays all his money and he gets away with it, right and scot-free. He comes out and he and the fucking boys blah, blah, blah, news conference, all this stuff. If they killed him then I probably would have been all right with it at that point, because they didn't skip the line and go straight to like putting a gun to the mom's head as she's crawling away and they went and reloaded and executed her. If they would have done that and I'm not even saying kill the mom too right, go trial, try to get your dad to get thrown in prison or whatever, right.
Speaker 1:And it all burns and you don't succeed.
Speaker 2:And then you get him.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with that Get it Like understand this thing. It was a different time, it was a different era. So the thing of them coming out and telling everyone like hey, we've been abused by our dad, like, and Eric's been abused for the past 12, 14 years, like, come on, I get what you're saying. They were not going to go through that exposure of it.
Speaker 2:Is it a little bit strange, because I think they would have been embarrassed.
Speaker 1:Even they were like they didn't want to talk about it on trial. They were just like hiding it, not avoiding it, because they had to talk about it, but like it was reluctant, they didn't, he was just saying like yes, not even saying yes, at some point he would just shake his head as yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1:I will say this just to not point out the obvious.
Speaker 2:But it is very weird for you to tell me about this time when I was the one who was alive. But yes, I understand what you're saying and and not much has changed in that respect. Right, right, like people don't get abused and then like they're happy to go run around telling everybody no, I get that, my whole thing is murder is pretty extreme yeah like that's. I don't think that should be the answer.
Speaker 1:I also believe rape over like several. What 12 years?
Speaker 2:it's no you're right, it's like extreme, pretty extreme right right it's pretty extreme and then, knowing the details, it's pretty extreme. You're using the word knowing. We were told we were told the details, yeah right, it could be a lie, but if it is true, no, but that's the thing still.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay, so, but but also, but also, but also. The dad was managing a group of boys right the band was called menudo yeah, which was like the.
Speaker 2:It was like nYNC but Latinos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shit. Anyways, there's this member that recently came out. I got to look it up.
Speaker 2:Right, right, he put it on TikTok. No, no, it's 100%, I get it.
Speaker 1:And he said that he remembers being, I think he said drugged or some type, like something was put in his drink or something like that and Jose Menendez actually raped him. He was like that was the first occasion After that it happened. You know, yeah, I don't know how many times, I don't remember how many times he said but yeah, so like there's people, like talking about it like coming out and right, which is part of what I was talking about.
Speaker 2:That wasn't, wasn't part of the story back then but it's like new.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, this is new, this is recent so it was, it was. Roy.
Speaker 2:A guy named Roy says he was drugged and raped as a teen. I guess this is back in the 80s. Yeah, oh there you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, there you go. Now, more than 30 years later, a former member of the popular puerto rican boy band, grupo menudo, claims he was too. He too was victimized by jose in the 80s, and he was a teen before. So we have it up on our, our monitor reading the most accurate we can be so yeah, like okay, you're not gonna tell me it didn't happen, when people are actually saying it happened, like Like I said, I don't know if it happened or didn't happen.
Speaker 2:I think it's 100% possible. This is not something that never happens, right? I get that this kind of abuse happens and it has always happened, so I get that my whole thing is given all of the benefits of all of it. My issue really is that they just skipped to that. If they would have gone to trial and lost the trial and then killed him, that would have made total sense.
Speaker 1:but that's the thing, even after a trial.
Speaker 2:I think the dad would go after them okay, so kill him, then go ahead there would have been a fucking time to fucking kill him.
Speaker 1:He would have fucking I don't know. Accuse him of defamation or, like you know, I mean some type of shit that wouldn't have flying.
Speaker 2:you don't. When you get charged and you're found innocent, that kind of cures all of that. So my whole thing and and the I think the real issue that I have is with the mom being murdered, because I get that. We agree that there's a good chance that she knew all this stuff right. I get that and I also get that there's probably some complicated relationships when your mother doesn't defend you Right and protect you. Get all of that Right. I think the part that complicates it is that if they killed the dad, she was going to fucking talk.
Speaker 1:She was going to talk.
Speaker 2:She gets the money.
Speaker 1:No, she was going to talk. She was going to talk. She wasn't going to stay quiet Like fucking talk, she was gonna talk. She gets the money. No, she was gonna talk. She was gonna talk, she wasn't gonna stay quiet, like, oh yeah, they killed my husband, like I don't know what happened I don't think they necessarily had to kill her, kill him in front of her like they did.
Speaker 2:I think that was an easy. If they wanted to save her, they could have.
Speaker 1:I think, if you're looking at it as them wanting the money, of course she has to go to no, no that's how I think no, she was gonna talk, she was gonna talk yeah, we're gonna agree to disagree on this, I think.
Speaker 2:But you know what this isn? This story isn't finished. No, yeah, there's a petition going around. And we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we have a new section, a new feature.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Let's see if this even works.
Speaker 1:So we decided that we're gonna go on to reddit right and we're gonna read these random stories random stories of people.
Speaker 2:Oh my god and then we're gonna give advice because, I'm gonna be honest, everybody doesn't know this yeah but, I mean, I've seen some stories on tiktok and I've been like trying to send you and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're short and they're like pretty interesting this is.
Speaker 2:This is what people don't know. We open, like our opinions are crazy, though, so this is what I was getting at. There is a part of bianca and i's friendship that is probably my favorite part. I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1:With arguing, yeah.
Speaker 2:Not to argue so much, but we share a lot of stories back and forth and then we give advice in our own private chat. That is hilarious A lot of times. Yeah Right, and so I think we're good at advice.
Speaker 1:But if they took our advice in action, if we actually like, I think the world would be a better place, right right, and so I think I think we're gonna get into some things here yeah so I'm gonna skim this story.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not gonna read a word for word, because I don't know if there's copyrights, right that's true.
Speaker 1:Right, just summarize.
Speaker 2:But just summarize the story, yeah I already read it, I already have some opinions, right, yeah. But basically there is this young lady. She works with this guy and apparently they're pretty good friends, right. I don't know if you would say besties or not, but they're, they're close okay, right, they get along well well, they kind of started hooking up right, just no, no strings attached, because they're bored, I think, more than anything. Right, they're bored, they drink, they're drinking buddies, blah, blah, blah. Well, the guy has an ex and, according to this reddit post, she's not she's not the greatest girlfriend, let's say it that way there's a reason.
Speaker 1:She's an ex right.
Speaker 2:Yes, right okay right and so she's not the best. Blah, blah, blah. And now this the friend the girl's writing this right, and now the guy is back talking to that girl to the x, to the x right to the x okay but the friend and him don't really have anything like strings, but she wonders if she should maybe say something, or is there something she should do? Is this a problem, right? Is there like are you getting this story?
Speaker 1:But they're just friends.
Speaker 2:Like are you getting this story? But they're just friends. The girl and the guy that are hooking up, the girl that wrote this is just friends. They're just friends. In fact, they're just drinking buddies and they work together. Right, but they have a good relationship Like they're friends.
Speaker 1:Okay, right, and so they have a good relationship like they're friends. Okay, right and so.
Speaker 2:And so the guy is talking again with his ex right and the friend found out right, and so I think part of the issue, if I'm reading this right, is that the is a girl found out. It's not that she was told. Do you know what I mean? Okay, so it's like there's no relationship there, but he's still kind of hiding.
Speaker 2:So he didn't tell the friend like hey, I'm talking again with the ex Right, but he never said anything either, like he didn't say no, I'm not, but he didn't say yes I am. Like it's't say no, I'm not, but he didn't say yes, I am, hmm, like it's kind of a I mean, but they're friends. Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're not a thing thing.
Speaker 2:No, they're not a thing thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, so man it's. I mean, I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:But just for the fact, like what if?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what if he's hooking up with the ex?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And if he's trying to hook up with a friend as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that what he's doing? Because someone just doesn't talk with their ex to talk, mm.
Speaker 2:Right, True, true, true so yeah, and this is the other thing, true, true. So yeah, and this is the other thing too. Right Is that? If you're one of those people right, and I'm not. But if you're one of those people that gets bored and cures your boredom with sex, right? I think an X is an easy one to cure boredom with, because there's nothing new there right right.
Speaker 1:So it's just kind of the safe spot, right like it's just like you to your usual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like to build, build up to that point with a new person. There's a lot of nerves and yeah you know, and at least with this it's kind of like, well, it's familiar. Maybe even you know what to do, you know where all the landmarks are, you know.
Speaker 1:So maybe that's something you could slide back into yeah and slide out pretty quick, I think I mean but, but what I'm saying, like if they're friends or besties yeah just adding that on the side right. But like, if they're friends, at least, like let the girl know, like hey, I'm talking with again with my ex, you know it's you would know you don't you wouldn't have to say like so you and I are friends yeah, right and so when we tell each other everything to be honest.
Speaker 2:It's true, but when you talk to somebody, I hear about it. Yeah, we're friends. Yeah, right, we don't get mad about each other's shit. For sure, for sure, we're just like ah, whatever. That's you right, that's you.
Speaker 1:That's your choice, your friends. Well, we do advise each other though, yes, if you want to take it. You want to take it.
Speaker 2:If you don't, you don't but that's right how we work.
Speaker 1:But I wouldn't hide a relationship from you because that's weird, yeah right and you don't like like if I get another best friend yeah like when I told you about stephan. Like, oh, she's one of my best friends you know, I didn't hide her right, I told you like, oh, like I also want to do, like this podcast with her right, you know, and stuff like that, still working on it though, but but, and there's nothing wrong with any of that but I didn't hide her from you, right, like we're friends, friends, right and when you were dating back in the past when I was dating back in the past when I'm like when you meet a guy when I talk with one of my exes, I even told you about it, Like there's nothing to hide.
Speaker 1:We're friends. We're friends, friends before anything, before coworkers, before anything like that we're friends, there's a trust in us you know Well, and there's no reason to hide.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no Like, because I'm not, I'm not friends with you because you're single. No, no, no no no, no, I'm not friends because you're married, like it has zero effect.
Speaker 1:We're friends because we get along with each other. That's it, yeah.
Speaker 2:So in this situation, right.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're not friends, friends as she says. See, that's an interesting thing, right, because maybe Because I think to have a friendship with someone there's supposed to be trust.
Speaker 2:Sure and kind of openness too, right, like like if you were doing something, I can't think of a situation, cause I'm pretty like I don't have any. I don't have anything that I, you better, not you know, right, I don't have anything like that. But but if there was something that you did that was a deal breaker, like, let's say, you did something illegal, if you got into crime or you got into something that was like I can't be associated with that, we would have a discussion, right.
Speaker 1:Right, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like it wouldn't be like.
Speaker 1:It wouldn't be like be like I'm gonna hide this from her or she's gonna hide this from me, like it's just, it's not. Friends aren't like that yeah, but I don't know, it's okay, it is a weird situation. I mean, like I said, maybe they're not friends, that she thinks they are yeah, maybe, maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 2:If, if it's something else, what are your options? Right, because? Is it that the guy was trying to be more? Because maybe that's what it was and then it didn't work out, so he goes back?
Speaker 1:Hmm, he probably got game, though he probably is playing games. But besides that, I mean if they're friends and there's no strings attached, like if the guy was to your spot, I mean just don't, if it was me I wouldn't bring anything up If something is said to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like OK, cool, like it's your thing, right? Like I said, like I don't fucking care, like if it was, if you had a friend like yeah, and my friend tells me something, like oh, no, it's because this is going on right now, it's like okay, cool, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I think part of the reason you and I get along so well is that I would rather just know the landscape yeah right and so like with you, like because you've had different jobs, since we've been friends and so like. If your schedule changes, because that affects the podcast yeah, 100 let me know, right. Yeah, like, oh, now I'm working these days or maybe I'm doing this like you. Just let a friend know the things that are gonna to affect them not like we're not going to say that okay.
Speaker 1:So on his behalf let's just say he's not hiding it. It's more like maybe he doesn't want to talk about it because he's not sure yet about, like, what he's doing also this too right. I mean, maybe that's okay, let's go on his side now right, but this is the other thing.
Speaker 2:Is that because we, you and I, have been friends for a very long time? Right years and years when we first became friends. There were certain things I didn't tell you why, well, like I wasn't. I wasn't super open about my strip club expertise.
Speaker 1:You didn't talk to me about the guys you were seeing back then that's true right and so man, you see like I was fucking hooking up with guys I'm just saying you, you didn't tell me everything because we weren't there yet right right, we were friends, but that's what I'm saying maybe she's wrong on the part of like
Speaker 1:how close how close they are, and maybe they're not that close yeah, maybe but on his behalf, like maybe he's not sure what he wants yet, like it's his thing of trying to figure out what exactly yeah what he's to do, or the next move maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But if they're friends and they talk every day, like Might as well, talk about it.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Like I said, I think one of the things Because, as friends, we talk every day. We talk every day.
Speaker 1:Dumb shit, serious shit. Whatever the fuck it is, we talk about it.
Speaker 2:You send me the videos that I just watched, all the time talk about it like you send me the videos that I just watched all the time.
Speaker 2:not even I send you new ones. I said you do it. But what I mean is our algorithms are the same. Oh yeah, so today, for example, at the same time, I send bianca a video and she sends me a video, and they literally came in at the same time. It's the same comedian at the same show, two minutes apart. The sections were just slightly off and it was basically the same kind of joke. So our algorithms are the same and so I don't know who these people are, but I will say they get in the vibe from the guy's side.
Speaker 1:Okay, but the thing is, what does the ex think though? Do you think the ex knows If the friend knows?
Speaker 2:I don't think she knows.
Speaker 1:Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:If you're the, ex, we'd have to share the Reddit on on our page.
Speaker 1:yeah, we want people can can let us know that's crazy, though that's a complicated one yeah, well, that's it for today.
Speaker 2:if you have a situation with drama, I love the choosing guys.
Speaker 1:I love the choosing.
Speaker 2:Send it to us on our Facebook.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because we both read our emails on our Facebook. I'm the only one. If you just want to talk to me, send it on TikTok, but I never open that. But if you want to talk, to us both.
Speaker 1:It's Facebook.
Speaker 2:I'm'm gonna be honest with you. That's another thing that we will both read the message, and then we will message each other to and summarize the email that we both just read oh yeah, we do that too yeah we do a lot of dumb shit but not as dumb as this ex or no, the friend yeah, he doesn't seem like a genius. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just want to know the end game though, like what's the, what's the plan here?
Speaker 2:like I'm gonna keep up with this post. We're gonna keep up figuring this out. Something's gonna happen something's gonna blow up for sure, and so we're gonna know and we're gonna let y'all know and then hopefully we get more stories, because we love being helpful and we like being yeah, this is like our service, a little bit of what we do. Anyways, we're just bringing this into the podcast a little bit. Yeah, also, let us know where you stand on the Menendez brothers, because Bianca and I are like miles apart on that.
Speaker 2:Who's right on that, or are we both wrong?
Speaker 1:What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't think we can both be wrong, but somewhat. I think somebody is going to disagree with one of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I have a feeling it's me, but that's it for today. Thank you for joining us. We will talk to you next week.
Speaker 1:Bye guys.
